Profit Stop Loss Settings and Variables - Important for Cash Gamers
gday all
just reading in another post about stop loss ,when to sit out,put a line in to sit out if lose so much % of stack or sit out if win so much,could you please explain more with some samples so us newer botters can uderstand more (alright its just me) thanks for any help
I have changed the tittle of this thread, and made it a sticky as the information in this post will help all cash gamers.
Royal
I have changed the tittle of this thread, and made it a sticky as the information in this post will help all cash gamers.
Royal
ty for that explains it very well and will be usefull for me and others,thanks for your time
Any time guys,
Don't be shy, ask anything you like; that's what I am here for :)
Royal
IMHO, you are wrong with the way you code it. In fact, what you have written for the stop-loss is valid for the stop-win and vice versa.
This would cause your profile to sit out once it has lost 50% of your stack or worse.
Let's imagine that you start with 100BB. So Startingstacksize=100. Above statement will be true when your stacksize is above 200BB, and not if you're below 50BB
This statement will be true when your stacksize is below 50 BB
Of course, if you use both and you will not see the mistake
IMHO, you are wrong with the way you code it. In fact, what you have written for the stop-loss is valid for the stop-win and vice versa.
This would cause your profile to sit out once it has lost 50% of your stack or worse.
Let's imagine that you start with 100BB. So Startingstacksize=100. Above statement will be true when your stacksize is above 200BB, and not if you're below 50BB
This statement will be true when your stacksize is below 50 BB
Of course, if you use both and you will not see the mistake
Can you pull out some evidence to prove this? To me that makes no sense at all, if your writing when <50% StartingStackSize your telling it too sit out when your bellow 50% of your starting stack; that is exactly what the coding says; If I am wrong I will gladly admit it but get some evidence that your claims are true maybe from the ppl guide.
Royal
Startingstacksize is the first stack the bot read.
bot window reads it’s stack size in the current session. Clicking start and stop on our bots will not reset this variable even
if you move to another game, so you should close the bot window and reopen when you change tables. This variable
should only be used in cash game profiles as it does not account for the increasing big blind size in tournaments. Also
note that when the bot first reads it’s stack size it is usually after a blind has been posted so the number associated with
this variable will likely always be one big blind short. This variable is primarily meant to be used in the % comparators to
compare it to StackSize so you can create stop-loss points if you so desire.
Example from the ppl guide:
Example
Preflop
when startingstacksize >= 300% stacksize sitout force
You wrote
Example from the ppl guide:
you can program a stop-loss based on your starting stack size.
Example
Preflop
when startingstacksize >= 300% stacksize sitout force
That means when you have 3 times more then when you started with you sit out, if you read up I wrote:
When StartingStackSize < 50% StackSize Sitout force
When StartingStackSize > 200% StackSize Sitout force
Which is exactly what is written in the ppl guide, if it has more then two times the amount it started with it will sit out, or, if it has less then 50% of what it started with, it will sit out.
Yes, I know. I just said that in your detailed explanation, you inverted stop-loss and stop-win. You wrote
This would cause your profile to sit out once it has lost 50% of your stack or worse.
This is not correct."When StartingStackSize < 50% StackSize Sitout" will sit out when you have doubled up your stack.
EDIT:
That means when you have 3 times more then when you started with you sit out
No. You will sit out if your stack is below one third of your initial stack. Let's imagine that you start with 100BB
Startingstacksize=100
So, startingstacksize >=300% stacksize will be true if
100>= 3* stacksize, which is equivalent to stacksize<=100/3
Damn it, the boy is right.. lol
That one hurt my brain; I consulted the ppl manual and I asked Sausedup for clarification and seb is 100% correct, I had my ">" around the wrong way, a simple error; thank you seb for fixing me up on that one; I am man enough to admit when I am wrong; and am glad I now know, (we all now know) exectly how the stop loss coding works and can be coded.
Royal
But it's not simple to convince you...
Cheers.
It wasn't a matter of convincing, even SU got a headache reading all that, it was more of a misunderstanding and an important debate about coding that the entire community can benifit from.
Royal
edit - see the bellow posts